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	<title>Comments on: Soto Zen Priests Suing E-sangha</title>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.openbuddha.com/2008/08/07/soto-zen-priests-suing-e-sangha/comment-page-1/#comment-458472</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>E-sangha is truly an amazingly corrupt and destructive &quot;forum&quot;. Wow, it&#039;s really startling to see this hate based, fear based, mind controlling gathering of obviously suffering beings. 
The Dharmapalas are listening, I&#039;m quite sure. Maybe they will be able to use the legal system to right the corruption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E-sangha is truly an amazingly corrupt and destructive &#8220;forum&#8221;. Wow, it&#8217;s really startling to see this hate based, fear based, mind controlling gathering of obviously suffering beings.<br />
The Dharmapalas are listening, I&#8217;m quite sure. Maybe they will be able to use the legal system to right the corruption.</p>
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		<title>By: piper</title>
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		<dc:creator>piper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It is true that some members of the forum have strong opinions about the nature of the zen clergy, and of the soto school itself.&quot; &#8211; Bukowski (former e-sangha moderator) 
 
Significantly, I think you meant to say &#039;some administrator&#039; rather than &quot;some members&quot; of the forum. There wouldn&#039;t be a problem if only members had strong opinions. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;It is true that some members of the forum have strong opinions about the nature of the zen clergy, and of the soto school itself.&quot; &ndash; Bukowski (former e-sangha moderator) </p>
<p>Significantly, I think you meant to say &#039;some administrator&#039; rather than &quot;some members&quot; of the forum. There wouldn&#039;t be a problem if only members had strong opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: piper</title>
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		<dc:creator>piper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Lisa Mann, are you still a moderator at E-Sangha, and if not, why?&quot; 
 
She&#039;s not, maybe because she falls into fuzzy category? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Lisa Mann, are you still a moderator at E-Sangha, and if not, why?&quot; </p>
<p>She&#039;s not, maybe because she falls into fuzzy category?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Rogow</title>
		<link>http://www.openbuddha.com/2008/08/07/soto-zen-priests-suing-e-sangha/comment-page-1/#comment-413993</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Rogow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear  All:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To be praised by fools is the greatest dishonor while to be vilified by them is the greatest honor.  If one is praised by Shakyamuni Buddha and the Buddhas and Bodhisattvas of the universe, there are no regrets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear  All:</p>
<p>To be praised by fools is the greatest dishonor while to be vilified by them is the greatest honor.  If one is praised by Shakyamuni Buddha and the Buddhas and Bodhisattvas of the universe, there are no regrets.</p>
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		<title>By: drew.</title>
		<link>http://www.openbuddha.com/2008/08/07/soto-zen-priests-suing-e-sangha/comment-page-1/#comment-405768</link>
		<dc:creator>drew.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come come now..forgoodness sake.  These &quot;Moderators&quot; are clearly charlatans on the E-sangha posing as some kind of buddhist authority and are people unheard of.. Their come-uppance is due.  It is obvious that these charlatans posing as &#039;masters&#039; and all sorts with claims of some exotic schooling, are on the typical charlatans&#039; ego trips.  Of course they will cut you off when the heat is on, and feign a mass of irrelevant and twisted answers to callers on the e-sangha site.  Wisdom and Compassion does not mean you have to be a completely naieve sucker and fall for all the crap these self appointed self aggrandizing, moderator charlatans pose themselves to be and claim.  Wake Up !  Time now for refreshments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come come now..forgoodness sake.  These &#8220;Moderators&#8221; are clearly charlatans on the E-sangha posing as some kind of buddhist authority and are people unheard of.. Their come-uppance is due.  It is obvious that these charlatans posing as &#39;masters&#39; and all sorts with claims of some exotic schooling, are on the typical charlatans&#39; ego trips.  Of course they will cut you off when the heat is on, and feign a mass of irrelevant and twisted answers to callers on the e-sangha site.  Wisdom and Compassion does not mean you have to be a completely naieve sucker and fall for all the crap these self appointed self aggrandizing, moderator charlatans pose themselves to be and claim.  Wake Up !  Time now for refreshments.</p>
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		<title>By: drew.</title>
		<link>http://www.openbuddha.com/2008/08/07/soto-zen-priests-suing-e-sangha/comment-page-1/#comment-405767</link>
		<dc:creator>drew.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi folks.  You don&#039;t know &#039;who&#039; I am, or my background, so ..Yes, I have noticed on e-sangha a certain elitist attitude with an ear lent to speakers, void of compassion and wisdom.  It appears that e-sangha moderators are on an &quot;Look At Me ! I Am A Teacher&quot; type bullshitter, never a maxi-student, these types self promote their delusion of &#039;&#039;sitting in some up-there hierarchy&#039;&#039; of their own invention of mini-me-masters.  Some have sat in monastic-colleges in some exotic land and think they are special, and reside in some delusional self aggrandizing hierarchy,  having done such.  Then, they create a group, and cling to the hub so they can  control the wheel, as neurotic control freaks do, in their conditioned, neurotic insecurities.  Too often, the unhealthy-neurotics try to, and do,  take over groups and part or whole Orders because of this bed wetting, nail biting and incontinence induced conditioned fear they have.  Someone must kick their arses ( I love you Lin Chi !! I love you Yun Men !!)) and stamp out these neurotics feigning some calm-moderate fronts, when they are really revealed as unfit to &#039;&#039;rule&#039; - period.  Little wonder the sanity of Soto-Zen is out to chew these buttheads...compassionately, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi folks.  You don&#39;t know &#39;who&#39; I am, or my background, so ..Yes, I have noticed on e-sangha a certain elitist attitude with an ear lent to speakers, void of compassion and wisdom.  It appears that e-sangha moderators are on an &#8220;Look At Me ! I Am A Teacher&#8221; type bullshitter, never a maxi-student, these types self promote their delusion of &#39;&#39;sitting in some up-there hierarchy&#39;&#39; of their own invention of mini-me-masters.  Some have sat in monastic-colleges in some exotic land and think they are special, and reside in some delusional self aggrandizing hierarchy,  having done such.  Then, they create a group, and cling to the hub so they can  control the wheel, as neurotic control freaks do, in their conditioned, neurotic insecurities.  Too often, the unhealthy-neurotics try to, and do,  take over groups and part or whole Orders because of this bed wetting, nail biting and incontinence induced conditioned fear they have.  Someone must kick their arses ( I love you Lin Chi !! I love you Yun Men !!)) and stamp out these neurotics feigning some calm-moderate fronts, when they are really revealed as unfit to &#39;&#39;rule&#39; &#8211; period.  Little wonder the sanity of Soto-Zen is out to chew these buttheads&#8230;compassionately, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Pixy</title>
		<link>http://www.openbuddha.com/2008/08/07/soto-zen-priests-suing-e-sangha/comment-page-1/#comment-404817</link>
		<dc:creator>Pixy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny how many consider Buddhism to be an orthodox religion with set rules and beliefs to be followed. The fact is Buddhism is an ongoing ever evolving practice that can&#039;t be pinned down from one moment to the next. It is something different for each practitioner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how many consider Buddhism to be an orthodox religion with set rules and beliefs to be followed. The fact is Buddhism is an ongoing ever evolving practice that can&#39;t be pinned down from one moment to the next. It is something different for each practitioner.</p>
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		<title>By: carp face</title>
		<link>http://www.openbuddha.com/2008/08/07/soto-zen-priests-suing-e-sangha/comment-page-1/#comment-380426</link>
		<dc:creator>carp face</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is interesting. I didn&#039;t know about this until today. I&#039;ve had my fair share of problems with e-sangha and have been banned before (who hasn&#039;t really). I&#039;m not surprised that they are being sued. Hopefully something good comes out of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is interesting. I didn&#39;t know about this until today. I&#39;ve had my fair share of problems with e-sangha and have been banned before (who hasn&#39;t really). I&#39;m not surprised that they are being sued. Hopefully something good comes out of it.</p>
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		<title>By: dorjepizza</title>
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		<dc:creator>dorjepizza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today after many days of Attack against  Bon .I replied to Mister malcom..&lt;br&gt;but not for Bon .&lt;br&gt;I express some doubt about his statement  on namkhai norbu Rinpoche and I was suspended&lt;br&gt;In all these year I see Mister malcom to make many affirmation about Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche  thazt are incosistent .&lt;br&gt;I am Bon practioner but one of my man master is namkhai norbu Rinpoche .&lt;br&gt;and I am surprise how i Namkhai norbu is  distorted by him .&lt;br&gt;Also many of his affirmition in Dzogchen are inconsitent  and they does not correspond to idea of namkhai Norbu Rinpoche  and many other Dzogchen .&lt;br&gt;When we ask  to show proof ,he never showed  and it is quite autoreferential.&lt;br&gt;He is a translator but he  never attended a College but only some courses of a Sakyapa Dharma Center.&lt;br&gt;So the onli advise is to pay attention about his affirmation&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway we are in  freedom place so his idea or fhis Dzogchen fabrication is not a problem .&lt;br&gt;E-sangha is not the only place where people can meet and discuss.But I want to make understand that  malcom is not a Dzogchen  master recognised by  namkhai Norbu Rinpoche .&lt;br&gt;So I think to put attention to his Dzogchen idea because I think thta they are very personal.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yours&lt;br&gt;Dorje Pizza</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today after many days of Attack against  Bon .I replied to Mister malcom..<br />but not for Bon .<br />I express some doubt about his statement  on namkhai norbu Rinpoche and I was suspended<br />In all these year I see Mister malcom to make many affirmation about Namkhai Norbu Rinpoche  thazt are incosistent .<br />I am Bon practioner but one of my man master is namkhai norbu Rinpoche .<br />and I am surprise how i Namkhai norbu is  distorted by him .<br />Also many of his affirmition in Dzogchen are inconsitent  and they does not correspond to idea of namkhai Norbu Rinpoche  and many other Dzogchen .<br />When we ask  to show proof ,he never showed  and it is quite autoreferential.<br />He is a translator but he  never attended a College but only some courses of a Sakyapa Dharma Center.<br />So the onli advise is to pay attention about his affirmation</p>
<p>Anyway we are in  freedom place so his idea or fhis Dzogchen fabrication is not a problem .<br />E-sangha is not the only place where people can meet and discuss.But I want to make understand that  malcom is not a Dzogchen  master recognised by  namkhai Norbu Rinpoche .<br />So I think to put attention to his Dzogchen idea because I think thta they are very personal.</p>
<p>Yours<br />Dorje Pizza</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 23:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What can be even more frustrating is that Buddhism is the spiritual tool that places most focus on the ilusion of contradictions and misunderstandings... We know that we&#039;ve got to let go to overcome such ilusions but in the end practice fails us...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Everyone talking from direct experience is saying the truth, each through it&#039;s own lens... No one ever able to speak and express pure and pristine living dharma and - simoultaneously - always doing it...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Question is, who is listening?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What can be even more frustrating is that Buddhism is the spiritual tool that places most focus on the ilusion of contradictions and misunderstandings&#8230; We know that we&#39;ve got to let go to overcome such ilusions but in the end practice fails us&#8230;</p>
<p>Everyone talking from direct experience is saying the truth, each through it&#39;s own lens&#8230; No one ever able to speak and express pure and pristine living dharma and &#8211; simoultaneously &#8211; always doing it&#8230;</p>
<p>Question is, who is listening?</p>
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