Comments on: Messaging Clients in the Post-Web 2.0 World http://www.openbuddha.com/2007/09/04/messaging-clients-in-the-post-web-20-world/ Open Source Buddhism Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:10:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: In Pursuit of Mysteries » Jabber support in the Mozilla Platform http://www.openbuddha.com/2007/09/04/messaging-clients-in-the-post-web-20-world/comment-page-1/#comment-48711 In Pursuit of Mysteries » Jabber support in the Mozilla Platform Mon, 17 Sep 2007 23:22:46 +0000 http://www.arcanology.com/2007/09/04/messaging-clients-in-the-post-web-20-world/#comment-48711 [...] I mentioned before, I think that we need to have a new messaging center application that combines contact lists/friend [...] [...] I mentioned before, I think that we need to have a new messaging center application that combines contact lists/friend [...]

]]> By: Alan Pater http://www.openbuddha.com/2007/09/04/messaging-clients-in-the-post-web-20-world/comment-page-1/#comment-40046 Alan Pater Thu, 06 Sep 2007 05:34:38 +0000 http://www.arcanology.com/2007/09/04/messaging-clients-in-the-post-web-20-world/#comment-40046 Yes, SMS and voicemails should be stored in the same system. I would even like to able to store entire voice calls. Yes, SMS and voicemails should be stored in the same system. I would even like to able to store entire voice calls.

]]> By: Wayne Woods http://www.openbuddha.com/2007/09/04/messaging-clients-in-the-post-web-20-world/comment-page-1/#comment-39912 Wayne Woods Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:03:19 +0000 http://www.arcanology.com/2007/09/04/messaging-clients-in-the-post-web-20-world/#comment-39912 Er, by that I meant archive some of my *phone* text messages back on my home computer... Er, by that I meant archive some of my *phone* text messages back on my home computer…

]]> By: Wayne Woods http://www.openbuddha.com/2007/09/04/messaging-clients-in-the-post-web-20-world/comment-page-1/#comment-39910 Wayne Woods Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:01:35 +0000 http://www.arcanology.com/2007/09/04/messaging-clients-in-the-post-web-20-world/#comment-39910 If something like this could have a version for mobile devices as well, could handle sms/mms messaging and export those back to the version on your computer, that'd be great. I've often thought I'd like to archive some of the text messages I've received on my home computer, but really have had no way to do so. If something like this could have a version for mobile devices as well, could handle sms/mms messaging and export those back to the version on your computer, that’d be great. I’ve often thought I’d like to archive some of the text messages I’ve received on my home computer, but really have had no way to do so.

]]> By: In Pursuit of Mysteries » Open Social Networks http://www.openbuddha.com/2007/09/04/messaging-clients-in-the-post-web-20-world/comment-page-1/#comment-39881 In Pursuit of Mysteries » Open Social Networks Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:13:42 +0000 http://www.arcanology.com/2007/09/04/messaging-clients-in-the-post-web-20-world/#comment-39881 [...] In Pursuit of Mysteries My studies and experiences in the realms of the mysteries… Skip to content About MeWishlistMy PapersArchivesAbout « Messaging Clients in the Post-Web 2.0 World [...] [...] In Pursuit of Mysteries My studies and experiences in the realms of the mysteries… Skip to content About MeWishlistMy PapersArchivesAbout « Messaging Clients in the Post-Web 2.0 World [...]

]]> By: Al http://www.openbuddha.com/2007/09/04/messaging-clients-in-the-post-web-20-world/comment-page-1/#comment-39653 Al Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:40:53 +0000 http://www.arcanology.com/2007/09/04/messaging-clients-in-the-post-web-20-world/#comment-39653 Hellekin, I'd never heard of SamePlace, which is why I didn't mention it. I'll go take a look now. I appreciate the pointer to it. Hellekin,

I’d never heard of SamePlace, which is why I didn’t mention it. I’ll go take a look now. I appreciate the pointer to it.

]]> By: hellekin http://www.openbuddha.com/2007/09/04/messaging-clients-in-the-post-web-20-world/comment-page-1/#comment-39648 hellekin Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:33:13 +0000 http://www.arcanology.com/2007/09/04/messaging-clients-in-the-post-web-20-world/#comment-39648 Two thoughts. First, a unique client for all messaging is actually a great idea. I've been thinking about it. The bottom line is: *users don't care about what protocol they're using*, what they want is to get their messages through. Second, I'm surprised you didn't mention SamePlace (http://sameplace.cc), a Firefox, Thunderbird and Songbird Jabber client that aims at integrating IM in your daily tasks. Notably, the integration with Thunderbird makes it possible for users to "reply" by IM. The main force of SP is that it's backed on XMPP. Relays exist between XMPP and everything else (AIM/ICQ, MSN, Yahoo! and IMAP). Having IM right into the browser is a huge improvement from my point of view. I like the idea of "P2P email", Al. Two thoughts. First, a unique client for all messaging is actually a great idea. I’ve been thinking about it. The bottom line is: *users don’t care about what protocol they’re using*, what they want is to get their messages through.

Second, I’m surprised you didn’t mention SamePlace (http://sameplace.cc), a Firefox, Thunderbird and Songbird Jabber client that aims at integrating IM in your daily tasks. Notably, the integration with Thunderbird makes it possible for users to “reply” by IM.

The main force of SP is that it’s backed on XMPP. Relays exist between XMPP and everything else (AIM/ICQ, MSN, Yahoo! and IMAP). Having IM right into the browser is a huge improvement from my point of view.

I like the idea of “P2P email”, Al.

]]> By: Al http://www.openbuddha.com/2007/09/04/messaging-clients-in-the-post-web-20-world/comment-page-1/#comment-39638 Al Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:14:04 +0000 http://www.arcanology.com/2007/09/04/messaging-clients-in-the-post-web-20-world/#comment-39638 Interesting. I'll take a look. I've had a lot of problems trying to get OpenWengo to work on my Mac. In fact, neither the last release nor the new alpha will run on my laptop. For that reason, I've been using the Gizmo Project for my VOIP usage (we have a SIP-based system locally). Interesting. I’ll take a look. I’ve had a lot of problems trying to get OpenWengo to work on my Mac. In fact, neither the last release nor the new alpha will run on my laptop. For that reason, I’ve been using the Gizmo Project for my VOIP usage (we have a SIP-based system locally).

]]> By: janvlug http://www.openbuddha.com/2007/09/04/messaging-clients-in-the-post-web-20-world/comment-page-1/#comment-39629 janvlug Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:01:44 +0000 http://www.arcanology.com/2007/09/04/messaging-clients-in-the-post-web-20-world/#comment-39629 Integrating http://www.openwengo.org/ and Thunderbird would provide a lot of the proposed functionality. A FireFox plugin already exists (http://dev.openwengo.com/trac/openwengo/trac.cgi/wiki/WengoPhoneFirefoxExtension) Integrating http://www.openwengo.org/ and Thunderbird would provide a lot of the proposed functionality.
A FireFox plugin already exists (http://dev.openwengo.com/trac/openwengo/trac.cgi/wiki/WengoPhoneFirefoxExtension)

]]> By: Al http://www.openbuddha.com/2007/09/04/messaging-clients-in-the-post-web-20-world/comment-page-1/#comment-39626 Al Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:54:12 +0000 http://www.arcanology.com/2007/09/04/messaging-clients-in-the-post-web-20-world/#comment-39626 One point about Facebook, Myspace, and similar sites is that they are walled gardens. If you, for some reason, can't get into these sites, you can't access the messages people have sent you, contact the people you've met there, or otherwise get data. This has happened a bit with Livejournal in the past where people have had accounts suspended and no longer had a way to contact friends that they only knew through the site. All of their posts that were "Friends Only" or private were no longer available. The other issue with sites like this is why should I have to go to a bunch of different sites to read messages or send them to people. Part of the joy of both e-mail and instant messaging is that the message *come to me* instead of me going to them. I have a central place, my application, and the data flows in. This allows me to keep it, organize it, search it and, generally, have a central repository for my messaging. I think that this is a good thing. One point about Facebook, Myspace, and similar sites is that they are walled gardens. If you, for some reason, can’t get into these sites, you can’t access the messages people have sent you, contact the people you’ve met there, or otherwise get data.

This has happened a bit with Livejournal in the past where people have had accounts suspended and no longer had a way to contact friends that they only knew through the site. All of their posts that were “Friends Only” or private were no longer available.

The other issue with sites like this is why should I have to go to a bunch of different sites to read messages or send them to people. Part of the joy of both e-mail and instant messaging is that the message *come to me* instead of me going to them. I have a central place, my application, and the data flows in. This allows me to keep it, organize it, search it and, generally, have a central repository for my messaging. I think that this is a good thing.

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