Oh blah blah blah

All I see here is a lot of talk from two dorks who wouldn’t know what real magic was if it hit them in the head.

I read an interview with Jason where he expressed interest in magic for “healing”

Here’s a tip for Jason – if you explicitly exclude Afro-Caribbean traditions from your field of reference you are NEVER going to find out

Palo, Voudon etc are not theoretical new-age self-help movements these are practical solutions for people with very real survival concerns things like bankruptcy, divorce, debilitating illness, foreclosure, deportation etc

Thats why herbal knowledge and working with the dead play such a big part because they are effective and STRONG and FAST

Any palero who couldn’t solve these problems for his clients quickly and powerfully would see his client base dry up and would no longer be able to charge money for his services its that simple

As Louv and “Shivanasth” have discovered it is way easier to flap your gums and assign things you don’t understand to imaginary categories than it is to actually get your hands dirty helping real people

So I respect them both as first class mental-masturbators but as spiritual “teachers” of any sort… NO

Voodoo has many dangers considering in my opinion evil is where actions are taken out on another persons physical, mental, sexual or spiritual well being just to satisfy a deep seeded thirst for selfish controll over another persons well being for whatever reason is wrong!

Now Jason Louve commented his beliefs about the devil in the beginning about how the devil can only live in the human heart,
So considering the comments above along with the consideration of the women victimized by voodoo love spells, the possibility that any other help beyond the help that was offered them through tantra would have been innefective as they were obviously under strong bondage of anothers spell, leaving them misreable and lacking controll of self choices and situations.

Round of applause to the thoughtful hearted tantra teacher for risking his own ass to get them free.

OLD TOPI PROVERBS AS FOLLOWS…

MAKE
SPACE TO BE
SPACE

A SOUL MUST LOSE ITS ATTACHEMENT TO HUMANITY

A MIND MUST LOSE ITS ATTACHEMENT TO SALVATION

A BRAIN MUST LOSE ITS ATTACHEMENT TO BODY

Those who accept Light Accept Mortality

Those who control Light Controll Immortality

Be Afraid to the point of formlessness

Be terrorized to the point of soundlessness

Be extreme to the point of powerlessness

OLD TOPI PROVERB^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Anything can be looked at in many ways !
I believe ULTRACOULTURE is a key to finding oneself in experience of combining Love and Loss to difficult relationships of people who by meeting changed both parties for the greatest good.