Comments on: Egyptian Reference Materials for the Golden Dawn http://www.openbuddha.com/2007/01/31/egyptian-reference-materials-for-the-golden-dawn/ Open Source Buddhism Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:10:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: infinitysnake http://www.openbuddha.com/2007/01/31/egyptian-reference-materials-for-the-golden-dawn/comment-page-1/#comment-627 infinitysnake Sat, 03 Feb 2007 04:51:17 +0000 http://www.arcanology.com/?p=1542#comment-627 Are those going to be difficult to find? Sounds like work. Are those going to be difficult to find? Sounds like work.

]]> By: Al http://www.openbuddha.com/2007/01/31/egyptian-reference-materials-for-the-golden-dawn/comment-page-1/#comment-607 Al Thu, 01 Feb 2007 00:08:06 +0000 http://www.arcanology.com/?p=1542#comment-607 I've been directed today towards Christian Bunsen's "Egypt's Place in Universal History" which contained "The Book of the Dead" and Goodwin's "Fragment of a Graeco-Egyptian Work on Magic from a Papyrus in the British Museum" as sources from a couple of decades before the Golden Dawn. I’ve been directed today towards Christian Bunsen’s “Egypt’s Place in Universal History” which contained “The Book of the Dead” and Goodwin’s “Fragment of a Graeco-Egyptian Work on Magic from a Papyrus in the British Museum” as sources from a couple of decades before the Golden Dawn.

]]> By: infinitysnake http://www.openbuddha.com/2007/01/31/egyptian-reference-materials-for-the-golden-dawn/comment-page-1/#comment-606 infinitysnake Thu, 01 Feb 2007 00:01:34 +0000 http://www.arcanology.com/?p=1542#comment-606 That's why I'm not sure there were books, even...there couldn't have been many on the subject at that point, could there? That’s why I’m not sure there were books, even…there couldn’t have been many on the subject at that point, could there?

]]> By: infinitysnake http://www.openbuddha.com/2007/01/31/egyptian-reference-materials-for-the-golden-dawn/comment-page-1/#comment-602 infinitysnake Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:37:59 +0000 http://www.arcanology.com/?p=1542#comment-602 Thought- you could try the librarian at the Rosicrucian museum- they have a lot of unpublished ephemera, out of print stuff. Thought- you could try the librarian at the Rosicrucian museum- they have a lot of unpublished ephemera, out of print stuff.

]]> By: Al http://www.openbuddha.com/2007/01/31/egyptian-reference-materials-for-the-golden-dawn/comment-page-1/#comment-601 Al Wed, 31 Jan 2007 18:42:51 +0000 http://www.arcanology.com/?p=1542#comment-601 Oh, we know it isn't a coincidence. Mathers was well known in the 1880s for being in the British Museum. Waite wrote an amusing story about meeting him there and gathering, from what Mathers stated, that Mathers was looking at Egyptian materials there. It's just very hard to nail down sources for Golden Dawn ideas of Egyptian beliefs (specifically on the soul) based on that. For other areas, we know what texts were available and often which ones were owned by them or quoted by them in other things they wrote. Oh, we know it isn’t a coincidence. Mathers was well known in the 1880s for being in the British Museum. Waite wrote an amusing story about meeting him there and gathering, from what Mathers stated, that Mathers was looking at Egyptian materials there.

It’s just very hard to nail down sources for Golden Dawn ideas of Egyptian beliefs (specifically on the soul) based on that. For other areas, we know what texts were available and often which ones were owned by them or quoted by them in other things they wrote.

]]> By: infinitysnake http://www.openbuddha.com/2007/01/31/egyptian-reference-materials-for-the-golden-dawn/comment-page-1/#comment-599 infinitysnake Wed, 31 Jan 2007 18:34:06 +0000 http://www.arcanology.com/?p=1542#comment-599 No, but I thought it might be a clue. In any case, the geographical proximity to the museum can't be complete coincidence? Iirc, the magic book came out 1896, and the Hathor book preceded it by a year. :-) No, but I thought it might be a clue. In any case, the geographical proximity to the museum can’t be complete coincidence?

Iirc, the magic book came out 1896, and the Hathor book preceded it by a year. :-)

]]> By: Al http://www.openbuddha.com/2007/01/31/egyptian-reference-materials-for-the-golden-dawn/comment-page-1/#comment-597 Al Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:04:04 +0000 http://www.arcanology.com/?p=1542#comment-597 Yes, I've heard the rumors about Budge before. He isn't recorded on any membership rolls so if he helped anyone, it was as a friend as the rolls are pretty complete, especially since multiple initiations are recorded, etc. His book came out in 1895, seven years after the GD was founded and, I believe, three years after the second order was created. I'll have to double-check the dates on Farr's book but even that wouldn't explain what Mathers and Westcott were deriving their Egyptian elements from... Yes, I’ve heard the rumors about Budge before. He isn’t recorded on any membership rolls so if he helped anyone, it was as a friend as the rolls are pretty complete, especially since multiple initiations are recorded, etc.

His book came out in 1895, seven years after the GD was founded and, I believe, three years after the second order was created.

I’ll have to double-check the dates on Farr’s book but even that wouldn’t explain what Mathers and Westcott were deriving their Egyptian elements from…

]]> By: infinitysnake http://www.openbuddha.com/2007/01/31/egyptian-reference-materials-for-the-golden-dawn/comment-page-1/#comment-593 infinitysnake Wed, 31 Jan 2007 10:12:09 +0000 http://www.arcanology.com/?p=1542#comment-593 I know Flo Farr wrote a book on the Bruce Codex & another whose name escapes me...iirc, hers was a pretty earlyu entry onn the subject.. In any case, rumor has it that Budge worked the Egyptian dept. for the British museum just around the corner from the London temple & may have helped out here and there. I know Flo Farr wrote a book on the Bruce Codex & another whose name escapes me…iirc, hers was a pretty earlyu entry onn the subject..

In any case, rumor has it that Budge worked the Egyptian dept. for the British museum just around the corner from the London temple & may have helped out here and there.

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